[00:02:05] – Eric & Moira talk about why this was a second attempt at recording an episode together
[00:02:35] – Eric & Moira recognize when it’s time to take the “exit ramp” [00:03:00] – Eric talks about struggling planning a vacation; Moira talks about her own experiences of not being able to relax at home, and how going away was the only way to decompress.
[00:03:45] – One of the challenges for Eric is figuring out when to take a vacation. He talks about being stuck on a 7-year merry-go-round wondering when the right time will be.
[00:04:19] – Moira shares her own experience when she got into teaching but didn’t end up actually going anywhere during the summers.
[00:04:35] – Moira asks Eric if he’s spent some time wondering and dreaming as he talks about a Phish concert he’s been waitlisted for.
[00:06:05] – Moira acknowledges how Eric describes most of the things she does in advance of a trip, and how having a narrow focus is not so overwhelming. [00:06:30] – Moira says he might need another vacation after Eric’s big trip, and why.
[00:07:35] – Moira talks about “training” to figure out what to take and what not to take during trips and shows.
[00:08:00] – Moira mentions making packing lists for herself and her family and doesn’t try to think up anything on her own; using lists as a frame of reference and other resources to help save executive functions are extremely helpful.
[00:08:40] – Eric jumps in and mentions and [00:10:00] – Eric has a big question: What happens if a spot (for the Phish concert) doesn’t open up? Moira shares her thoughts, what to watch for with airlines and tickets, how travelling on points is easier to change, and having a back-up plan.
[00:12:00] – Moira asks Eric what else he likes to do and if going for an event or going for something completely different is part of a vacation for him.
[00:12:47] – Eric thinks an all-inclusive resort sounds amazing because you don’t have to plan much and likes the idea of going somewhere warm and sunny. [00:13:33] – Eric and Moira talk about how you can find others who have done some of the research and work already because they’ve already been there. [00:14:10] – One of the things that has helped Moira the most is going somewhere more than once.
[00:15:00] – Moira talk about time shares and points to limit the systems she has to navigate when planning a vacation, while Eric asks her about “glamp”-ing [00:16:33] – Eric says he needs to make vacations a part of his lifestyle